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Discussion: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
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firebarb |
Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 12 2008, 9:44 PM EDT What do you think will happen with Restless Style. Jack has now declared himself boss. Nick now has his nose out of joint. Will this be a big mistake that Jack has made? Or will it be a huge success which will further enrage Nick. I keep thinking about Victor screaming at Nick that day about going into business with Jack who would turn on him in a heart beat. And I am thinking this is how Victor will be proven right once again. Jack will make these changes with this Jamie woman and the magazine will fold. And one other little tidbit. Remember that Felicia was so in love with Lily Winters and it had to be her? All of her advertising was based on that right? Those were her demands? What happens now that Jack pulled Lily will Felicia pull her advertising and others too and the whole thing go down the tubs? The setup is there for a big failure now. I am hoping it doesn't. I am hoping it starts and Nick can save it and tell Jack to butt out but it really isn't looking good at this point? Any thoughts my friends? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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FIESTYCATS |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 12 2008, 10:33 PM EDT "What do you think will happen with Restless Style. Jack has now declared himself boss. Nick now has his nose out of joint. Will this be a big mistake that Jack has made? Or will it be a huge success which will further enrage Nick. I keep thinking about Victor screaming at Nick that day about going into business with Jack who would turn on him in a heart beat. And I am thinking this is how Victor will be proven right once again. Jack will make these changes with this Jamie woman and the magazine will fold. And one other little tidbit. Remember that Felicia was so in love with Lily Winters and it had to be her? All of her advertising was based on that right? Those were her demands? What happens now that Jack pulled Lily will Felicia pull her advertising and others too and the whole thing go down the tubs? The setup is there for a big failure now. I am hoping it doesn't. I am hoping it starts and Nick can save it and tell Jack to butt out but it really isn't looking good at this point? Any thoughts my friends? "Probably flop but just my opinion. Heck, Sharon and Phyllis have more disagreements than they agree on. Phyllis likes the trash photos while Sharon goes for the frumpy styles,he,ha. And sorry to say this cause I like her but, Amber is a loud mouth, nosey secetary,lol. Amber needs to answer and take messages, not try to push her designs on anyone. Amber was doing fine there for awhile. The 4 exes all working together doesn't make good for business. Do you find this valuable? |
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sjenn2001 |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 13 2008, 2:42 PM EDT I really want RS to be a success for Nick's sake. It's kind of good this whole fiasco is happening, because now Nick can see just how cut throat and ruthless Jack can be in business (just like Victor). I think that Jack and Sharon are going to back stab Nick and Phyllis, but I'm hoping that Nick will rise to the occasion and prove that (just like his father) he's a force to be reckoned with. Nick is a fighter just like Victor and has proven that he can be ruthless as well. I don't know what's going to happen, but my money's on Nick and Phyllis. JMO 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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firebarb |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 13 2008, 2:48 PM EDT "I really want RS to be a success for Nick's sake. It's kind of good this whole fiasco is happening, because now Nick can see just how cut throat and ruthless Jack can be in business (just like Victor). I think that Jack and Sharon are going to back stab Nick and Phyllis, but I'm hoping that Nick will rise to the occasion and prove that (just like his father) he's a force to be reckoned with. Nick is a fighter just like Victor and has proven that he can be ruthless as well. I don't know what's going to happen, but my money's on Nick and Phyllis. JMO"Me too and remember Victor said his partner would back stab him and he'd never know. Well Nick had Phyllis to let him know and I sure hope Nick went into action. Great post. Go Nick. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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sjenn2001 |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 13 2008, 2:50 PM EDT "Me too and remember Victor said his partner would back stab him and he'd never know. Well Nick had Phyllis to let him know and I sure hope Nick went into action.Barb, looks like we're Nick's cheerleaders in this storyline (lol). Go Nick!!! Do you find this valuable? |
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intrigue |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 13 2008, 10:34 PM EDT "I really want RS to be a success for Nick's sake. It's kind of good this whole fiasco is happening, because now Nick can see just how cut throat and ruthless Jack can be in business (just like Victor). I think that Jack and Sharon are going to back stab Nick and Phyllis, but I'm hoping that Nick will rise to the occasion and prove that (just like his father) he's a force to be reckoned with. Nick is a fighter just like Victor and has proven that he can be ruthless as well. I don't know what's going to happen, but my money's on Nick and Phyllis. JMO"Great post sjenn, that sums up the way I feel. Also firebarb brings up an interesting point about Lily being tied in with the Forrester campaign as well, they had to coax Felicia & Co on board to begin with & having Jack drop Lily as the cover model for Restless Style might not sit well at all with them. Jack has gotten so arrogant & Sharon is acting immature and spiteful, you'd think she was back in high school vying with Phyllis for a spot on the cheerleading squad. Did Jabot advertise in Restless Style too? Lily is their Fresh Faces model & likely they won't like her being dropped from the cover either. I don't even think it was a wise decision, Lily looked great on the cover and they replaced her with an attractive enough but rather generic looking model imo. Do you find this valuable? |
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bjandk |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 13 2008, 10:48 PM EDT "Great post sjenn, that sums up the way I feel. Also firebarb brings up an interesting point about Lily being tied in with the Forrester campaign as well, they had to coax Felicia & Co on board to begin with & having Jack drop Lily as the cover model for Restless Style might not sit well at all with them. Jack has gotten so arrogant & Sharon is acting immature and spiteful, you'd think she was back in high school vying with Phyllis for a spot on the cheerleading squad. Did Jabot advertise in Restless Style too? Lily is their Fresh Faces model & likely they won't like her being dropped from the cover either. I don't even think it was a wise decision, Lily looked great on the cover and they replaced her with an attractive enough but rather generic looking model imo. "I hope Nick pulls them out of the fire too. It seems like RS & Jabot had some kind of deal involving Lilly doing the Cover & advertising for there product & Forrester had some what of a deal over Lilly too. I think all 3 are sorta involved. So it seems like it would really goof things up if Jack changed the cover. Plus it was quite expensive to do all this. Usually u have contracts with clients like Jabot & Forrester so it seems unreal that Jack could do that. but its a soap!!! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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judann |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 14 2008, 12:41 AM EDT "What do you think will happen with Restless Style. Jack has now declared himself boss. Nick now has his nose out of joint. Will this be a big mistake that Jack has made? Or will it be a huge success which will further enrage Nick. I keep thinking about Victor screaming at Nick that day about going into business with Jack who would turn on him in a heart beat. And I am thinking this is how Victor will be proven right once again. Jack will make these changes with this Jamie woman and the magazine will fold. And one other little tidbit. Remember that Felicia was so in love with Lily Winters and it had to be her? All of her advertising was based on that right? Those were her demands? What happens now that Jack pulled Lily will Felicia pull her advertising and others too and the whole thing go down the tubs? The setup is there for a big failure now. I am hoping it doesn't. I am hoping it starts and Nick can save it and tell Jack to butt out but it really isn't looking good at this point? Any thoughts my friends? "firebarb, I think Felicia will not like it one bit however, Lily was hired for the Forester ad and she will still be in the magazine but just not on the cover. I wonder if it is too late for Nick to stop the change. You know, if Phyllis gets ahold of him in time. You are sooo right about Victor's warning about Jack. But, Nick knew what Jack was like, why did he trust him? And Sharon...what can I say about her. Her backing up Jack in everything is getting nauseating. Is she so spineless or mindless that she doesn't have any thought of her own? Talk about a trophy wife! Oh there is going to be a BIG falling out. All partners have equal say in all matters - that's what meetings are for. One just can't make all the decisions - the magazine is gonna suffer Do you find this valuable? |
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judann |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 14 2008, 12:44 AM EDT "I really want RS to be a success for Nick's sake. It's kind of good this whole fiasco is happening, because now Nick can see just how cut throat and ruthless Jack can be in business (just like Victor). I think that Jack and Sharon are going to back stab Nick and Phyllis, but I'm hoping that Nick will rise to the occasion and prove that (just like his father) he's a force to be reckoned with. Nick is a fighter just like Victor and has proven that he can be ruthless as well. I don't know what's going to happen, but my money's on Nick and Phyllis. JMO"Oh I hope you're right, sjenn. I really want it to go for N & P Do you find this valuable? |
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judann |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 14 2008, 12:49 AM EDT "Great post sjenn, that sums up the way I feel. Also firebarb brings up an interesting point about Lily being tied in with the Forrester campaign as well, they had to coax Felicia & Co on board to begin with & having Jack drop Lily as the cover model for Restless Style might not sit well at all with them. Jack has gotten so arrogant & Sharon is acting immature and spiteful, you'd think she was back in high school vying with Phyllis for a spot on the cheerleading squad. Did Jabot advertise in Restless Style too? Lily is their Fresh Faces model & likely they won't like her being dropped from the cover either. I don't even think it was a wise decision, Lily looked great on the cover and they replaced her with an attractive enough but rather generic looking model imo. "You're right, intrigue, about the new model being generic looking. Another point is Lily is younger - her looks are dark and smoldering and a hundred times more exotic looking. Go Lily! Go Nick! Go to he** Jack! Do you find this valuable? |
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firebarb |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 14 2008, 1:46 AM EDT "Barb, looks like we're Nick's cheerleaders in this storyline (lol). Go Nick!!!"No kidding this time we are for sure. I'm really going to be disappointed if Nick hasn't out smarted Jack or doesn't before it's over with. I can't wait to see the looks on Jack and Snooty Sharon's face. Do you find this valuable? |
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firebarb |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 14 2008, 1:46 AM EDT "Barb, looks like we're Nick's cheerleaders in this storyline (lol). Go Nick!!!"Oh I forgot. Go Nick. !!! Do you find this valuable? |
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firebarb |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 14 2008, 1:49 AM EDT "Great post sjenn, that sums up the way I feel. Also firebarb brings up an interesting point about Lily being tied in with the Forrester campaign as well, they had to coax Felicia & Co on board to begin with & having Jack drop Lily as the cover model for Restless Style might not sit well at all with them. Jack has gotten so arrogant & Sharon is acting immature and spiteful, you'd think she was back in high school vying with Phyllis for a spot on the cheerleading squad. Did Jabot advertise in Restless Style too? Lily is their Fresh Faces model & likely they won't like her being dropped from the cover either. I don't even think it was a wise decision, Lily looked great on the cover and they replaced her with an attractive enough but rather generic looking model imo. "Yes Jabot and Felicia's company for sure had some interest in that and did more advertising and requested Lily to do the shoot. So I think Jack needed to look at those advertising contracts what they stand to lose. If they have a great cover and no advertisers well that's a sinking ship. So I think Nick knowing that is going to put a halt to the new cover or I hope he has the guts to do that. Do you find this valuable? |
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firebarb |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 14 2008, 1:51 AM EDT "firebarb, I think Felicia will not like it one bit however, Lily was hired for the Forester ad and she will still be in the magazine but just not on the cover. I wonder if it is too late for Nick to stop the change. You know, if Phyllis gets ahold of him in time. You are sooo right about Victor's warning about Jack. But, Nick knew what Jack was like, why did he trust him? And Sharon...what can I say about her. Her backing up Jack in everything is getting nauseating. Is she so spineless or mindless that she doesn't have any thought of her own? Talk about a trophy wife! Oh there is going to be a BIG falling out. All partners have equal say in all matters - that's what meetings are for. One just can't make all the decisions - the magazine is gonna suffer"Well Judann that might be true but they put her in their ads because she was on the cover if you remember correctly. The prestige of that goes away if Lily isn't on the cover. It's all connected and I can see this all crashing in on Mr. Jack who didn't think this through enough. JMO but I think Forrester, Newman and Jabot could all pull their ads. Especially if Nick encouraged them to use that pressure. Do you find this valuable? |
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firebarb |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 14 2008, 1:54 AM EDT "You're right, intrigue, about the new model being generic looking. Another point is Lily is younger - her looks are dark and smoldering and a hundred times more exotic looking. Go Lily! Go Nick! Go to he** Jack!"Remember too Lily is the fresh faces girl. They pull her then Nikki could say we pull our advertising. I just see this working in Nick's favor. And look how hard that Nick and Phyllis worked on those advertisers. Especially Nick and where were Jack and Sharon? Chasing ghosts at the mansion. So all this time Nick and Phyllis was working while Jack and Sharon were messing around. Now all of a sudden they don't like anything and want to run it? I don't think so. LOL Go Nick. Do you find this valuable? |
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judann |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 14 2008, 2:09 AM EDT "Well Judann that might be true but they put her in their ads because she was on the cover if you remember correctly. The prestige of that goes away if Lily isn't on the cover. It's all connected and I can see this all crashing in on Mr. Jack who didn't think this through enough. JMO but I think Forrester, Newman and Jabot could all pull their ads. Especially if Nick encouraged them to use that pressure. "I don't recall that Felicia required Lily on the cover also. According to know-it-all Jamie no one would buy the magazine because of the cover. She criticized the font used the shading and the model.........I thought the cover was gorgeous and I would buy it.........and who am I? Ms Average American! Do you find this valuable? |
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firebarb |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 14 2008, 2:13 AM EDT "I don't recall that Felicia required Lily on the cover also. According to know-it-all Jamie no one would buy the magazine because of the cover. She criticized the font used the shading and the model.........I thought the cover was gorgeous and I would buy it.........and who am I? Ms Average American! "Lily was already on the cover she loved Lily and then ask her to do her shoot on this new advertising is the way I remember it. Do you find this valuable? |
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intrigue |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 14 2008, 8:11 AM EDT Jamie & Jack made the Restless Style cover look like all the other magazines out there. You could take off the Restless Style logo & replace it with Elle, Vogue, Seventeen, Cosmo, etc. The whole point of Restless Style was to be *different* than everything else out there, not a copy of it. It's supposed to be hip & new & pushing the barriers of style & fashion into new directions & the original cover with Lily was a far better fit for this image. Not only is the model change up a mistake, but even the colouring & lighting of the new cover is wrong- they've taken it from exotic & dramatic to blend-in-with-the-newsstand unremarkable. For so-called professionals, Jamie & Jack really dropped the ball on this one. If there is a second issue- drop the know-it-all magazine diva, give the final say to Nick instead of Jack, get Phyllis a decent lap top that doesn't malfunction every ten minutes & send Sharon out shopping or something so the grown-ups can run the magazine without her high schoolish Mean Girls impersonation. Oh- and put Lily on the cover in one of Amber's creations. Do you find this valuable? |
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judann |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 14 2008, 11:01 AM EDT "Jamie & Jack made the Restless Style cover look like all the other magazines out there. You could take off the Restless Style logo & replace it with Elle, Vogue, Seventeen, Cosmo, etc. The whole point of Restless Style was to be *different* than everything else out there, not a copy of it. It's supposed to be hip & new & pushing the barriers of style & fashion into new directions & the original cover with Lily was a far better fit for this image. Not only is the model change up a mistake, but even the colouring & lighting of the new cover is wrong- they've taken it from exotic & dramatic to blend-in-with-the-newsstand unremarkable. For so-called professionals, Jamie & Jack really dropped the ball on this one.OH YEAH! intrigue - Loved your entire statement, especially about sending Sharon shopping. Also, get her out of the black, night-time, prom dress for daytime wear. She looked ridiculous walking into the restaurant in evening wear. Do you find this valuable? |
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firebarb |
RE: Restless Style: Failure or Success???
May 14 2008, 11:34 AM EDT "OH YEAH! intrigue - Loved your entire statement, especially about sending Sharon shopping. Also, get her out of the black, night-time, prom dress for daytime wear. She looked ridiculous walking into the restaurant in evening wear."That's Funny Judann. I'm glad I wasn't alone in feeling how inappropriate that dress is for business. I guess it's part of her Queen Wardrobe. All she needs is a tiara. If Phyllis don't crown her first. Do you find this valuable? |
