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divadp |
120. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 19 2008, 4:34 PM EDT
"You are so right . . . it's almost painful to watch. As much as we all know I love Victor, I agree with everyone that his plan of destruction should be aimed solely at Jack."I agree but unfortunately a lot of people are going to pay...unfortunately the ending will be tragic... Do you find this valuable? |
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WTFISGOINGON |
121. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 19 2008, 5:33 PM EDT
"Jack is always trying to light the fire but he can't take the heat, he is no match for Victor and he never will be he is a disgrace to his family, Victor is right John must be so ashamed of him...it was nver proven that the lady died becasue of the faulty cream so I don't think she is responsible for anyone's death...what she did was wrong but she never intended for anyone to get hurt...as for Jack that is a different story he was trying to bring down Victor and his family and he thinks that he has succeeded....but wait he is going to pay....he just brought world war three on himself he is going to see that when Victor fires he don't miss, he is going to sink like the titanic....JMO"If he couldn't take the heat then he either wouldn't still be standing like he is now or he wouldn't be lighting fires so....Keep in mind Jack and Victor have been going at it for a long time to say that he can't take the heat from him is ridiculous in my opinion. Jack deserves some credit as well. As far as him being no match for Victor, that is debatable. Same goes for him being a disgrace to his family because if I were Victor I wouldn't be pointing any fingers, his own son turned him in once as much as people forget that every now and then. Also, any family man would give their own blood a chance to explain themselves. Ok.... Gloria didn't intend for anyone to get hurt which is granted, BUT SHE DIDN'T MIND MANIPULATING A WOMAN'S DEATH TO HELP GET JACK OUT OF JABOT NOW DID SHE? Also, Jack is after Victor in this instance, so as far as him trying to bring down Victor and his family, you only mean Sabrina then yes but Jack doesn't care about her. The mustache is in his sights as well as the future of the magazine because it's the only thing he has now and it all stemmed from Gloria's self entitlement when she's just some gold digger who didn't even have the motherly instinct or will to protect her children from abuse. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Memmory |
122. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 19 2008, 6:02 PM EDT
"If he couldn't take the heat then he either wouldn't still be standing like he is now or he wouldn't be lighting fires so....Keep in mind Jack and Victor have been going at it for a long time to say that he can't take the heat from him is ridiculous in my opinion. Jack deserves some credit as well. As far as him being no match for Victor, that is debatable. Same goes for him being a disgrace to his family because if I were Victor I wouldn't be pointing any fingers, his own son turned him in once as much as people forget that every now and then. Also, any family man would give their own blood a chance to explain themselves. Ok.... Gloria didn't intend for anyone to get hurt which is granted, BUT SHE DIDN'T MIND MANIPULATING A WOMAN'S DEATH TO HELP GET JACK OUT OF JABOT NOW DID SHE? Also, Jack is after Victor in this instance, so as far as him trying to bring down Victor and his family, you only mean Sabrina then yes but Jack doesn't care about her. The mustache is in his sights as well as the future of the magazine because it's the only thing he has now and it all stemmed from Gloria's self entitlement when she's just some gold digger who didn't even have the motherly instinct or will to protect her children from abuse. "Who would defend Jack? Think about it, Jack only listened to his father from the grave. He never listened or paid attention to his dear ole dad until he went to the grave. As he occasionally visits, Jack listens because he is the devil himself. He knows if his father were to take him with away, his destiny would be different. He would not end up in heaven with the pleasure to return and be a voice of reason. He would fry in hell and this would be the end of him. Stupid storyline: His allowing Gloria back in the mansion. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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WTFISGOINGON |
123. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 19 2008, 6:46 PM EDT
Wow.. what the heck. I swear it's really creepy when people talk like Jack is the devil and in this case literally with the other things going on in the storyline. One thing I wont defend is what he has done to his father but it is very easy for me to defend everything else because he has to pay for it while skeletons and more in a few closets in the show... *cough*GLORIA*cough* have only experienced something short of a week with a tummy ache.
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CaramelCapri |
124. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 19 2008, 7:36 PM EDT
"Wow.. what the heck. I swear it's really creepy when people talk like Jack is the devil and in this case literally with the other things going on in the storyline. One thing I wont defend is what he has done to his father but it is very easy for me to defend everything else because he has to pay for it while skeletons and more in a few closets in the show... *cough*GLORIA*cough* have only experienced something short of a week with a tummy ache."To me Jack can be rather devilish sometimes. I disagree that Jack has had to pay for his wrongs. I don't think Jack has paid for even a quarter of the rotten crap he has done over the years. Jack only breaks from his scheming long enough to pursue women, in the 10 years or so that I've been watching I don't remember more than a few months at a time going by that Jack wasn't trying to do something underhanded. I do actually like Jack, I want to believe one day he'll truly straighten out and fill his father's shoes - which is why I'm so ticked off that he started this conflict with Victor and Nick. His obsession with Victor is sickening to me, I tired of it a long time ago back in the days when he ruined his marriage to Phyllis because of it. Now watching him repeat the whole cycle again with Sharon this time is making me think he might never redeem himself. Do you find this valuable? |
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divadp |
125. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 19 2008, 11:01 PM EDT
"If he couldn't take the heat then he either wouldn't still be standing like he is now or he wouldn't be lighting fires so....Keep in mind Jack and Victor have been going at it for a long time to say that he can't take the heat from him is ridiculous in my opinion. Jack deserves some credit as well. As far as him being no match for Victor, that is debatable. Same goes for him being a disgrace to his family because if I were Victor I wouldn't be pointing any fingers, his own son turned him in once as much as people forget that every now and then. Also, any family man would give their own blood a chance to explain themselves. Ok.... Gloria didn't intend for anyone to get hurt which is granted, BUT SHE DIDN'T MIND MANIPULATING A WOMAN'S DEATH TO HELP GET JACK OUT OF JABOT NOW DID SHE? Also, Jack is after Victor in this instance, so as far as him trying to bring down Victor and his family, you only mean Sabrina then yes but Jack doesn't care about her. The mustache is in his sights as well as the future of the magazine because it's the only thing he has now and it all stemmed from Gloria's self entitlement when she's just some gold digger who didn't even have the motherly instinct or will to protect her children from abuse. "I could go on and on about Victor Versus Jack but lets just agree to disagree.....because as much as i agree with a few of your points I disagree on most of them....cheers!! (smile) Do you find this valuable? |
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divadp |
126. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 19 2008, 11:03 PM EDT
"To me Jack can be rather devilish sometimes. I disagree that Jack has had to pay for his wrongs. I don't think Jack has paid for even a quarter of the rotten crap he has done over the years. Jack only breaks from his scheming long enough to pursue women, in the 10 years or so that I've been watching I don't remember more than a few months at a time going by that Jack wasn't trying to do something underhanded. I do actually like Jack, I want to believe one day he'll truly straighten out and fill his father's shoes - which is why I'm so ticked off that he started this conflict with Victor and Nick. His obsession with Victor is sickening to me, I tired of it a long time ago back in the days when he ruined his marriage to Phyllis because of it. Now watching him repeat the whole cycle again with Sharon this time is making me think he might never redeem himself."great post Caramel....I couldn't agree more. Do you find this valuable? |
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cortezs |
127. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 21 2008, 8:57 AM EDT
"I could go on and on about Victor Versus Jack but lets just agree to disagree.....because as much as i agree with a few of your points I disagree on most of them....cheers!! (smile)"well said..... Do you find this valuable? |
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fabulouslady |
128. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 21 2008, 11:04 AM EDT
"fabulous lady you are so right RS is on top but not for long, not if Victor has anything to say about it....the thing I hate the most is Sharon standing behind Jack and supporting him when she know darn well that what he did was wrong.....I love my husband but when he is wrong he sure is going to hear about it....(smile)"You are so right, Sharon is just a dorrmat. Jack can do anything and she is going to stand by her man, until he turns on her. Remember how he threw Gloria's clothes out in a plastic bag. Sharon if you cross him, I would make sure he doesn't have any plastic bags. Do you find this valuable? |
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firebarb |
129. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 21 2008, 11:05 AM EDT
"You are so right . . . it's almost painful to watch. As much as we all know I love Victor, I agree with everyone that his plan of destruction should be aimed solely at Jack."I can understand him being upset with Nick and maybe even Phyllis since she's part of the FAB 4 but to toss Summer out she didn't do anything. Your right it is painful to watch. To be honest I can't even be mad at Victor over it because I know he's hurting so bad he's just striking back and out of control. Does anyone know if he tosses Victoria off the ranch too? Do you find this valuable? |
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fabulouslady |
130. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 21 2008, 11:19 AM EDT
"I already know where this sl will go. Everyone will magically forget what Victor did to them and grab a torch and a pitchfork and chase after Jack again. Nevermind the fact that Victor already had his fun having Jack resign from his Senate seat. Along with insisting he was a killer, they need to find someone else to dump on already or give Jabot back to Jack then dump on him because it's no fun picking on someone who already got swindled in a big way by Gloria of all people."Jack had to resign the senate seat, because he was a liar, went to the jail, used his sick father to change his will to suit Jack's agenda. John wasn't even in his right mind. And Jack knew that. What a son? And Jack should have been the #1 suspect in JMinn's death, he was getting ready to expose him to the world. Victor wasn't getting exposed, Jack was. And Jack bought back Jabot undercover as always, when he knew that the courts said that after the cream incident that he could have no part of it. He could have gotten Kay in a world of trouble. Did he care about Kay, one of his father's best friends? Heck no, because the world revolves around Jack. He should have gone to jail for buying Jabot back, he knew what he was doing was wrong. Poor Jack. JMO Do you find this valuable? |
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cortezs |
131. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 21 2008, 12:22 PM EDT
"I can understand him being upset with Nick and maybe even Phyllis since she's part of the FAB 4 but to toss Summer out she didn't do anything.Nick and Victoria both want to be "grown up adults, not using their father money, etc" they should have brought homes a long time ago....I don't agree that he should toss them because he is angry but how can you aways be mad at your father and still live off of his fortune! Now they can move in with Nikki, or Phyllis can put Amber out of her penhouse...she should love that! OR they can all move in with Jack and Sharon. (lol) Do you find this valuable? |
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fabulouslady |
132. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 21 2008, 12:28 PM EDT
"To me Jack can be rather devilish sometimes. I disagree that Jack has had to pay for his wrongs. I don't think Jack has paid for even a quarter of the rotten crap he has done over the years. Jack only breaks from his scheming long enough to pursue women, in the 10 years or so that I've been watching I don't remember more than a few months at a time going by that Jack wasn't trying to do something underhanded. I do actually like Jack, I want to believe one day he'll truly straighten out and fill his father's shoes - which is why I'm so ticked off that he started this conflict with Victor and Nick. His obsession with Victor is sickening to me, I tired of it a long time ago back in the days when he ruined his marriage to Phyllis because of it. Now watching him repeat the whole cycle again with Sharon this time is making me think he might never redeem himself."Great post, Caramel, My heart bleeds for Jack. Do you find this valuable? |
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sjenn2001 |
133. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 21 2008, 12:54 PM EDT
"I can understand him being upset with Nick and maybe even Phyllis since she's part of the FAB 4 but to toss Summer out she didn't do anything.If I'm not mistaken, JT and Victoria bought their house from Victor. But, Victoria will probably want to support Nick, so her and JT might sell it back to Victor. At this point, anything is possible (lol). Do you find this valuable? |
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fabulouslady |
134. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 21 2008, 1:04 PM EDT
"If he couldn't take the heat then he either wouldn't still be standing like he is now or he wouldn't be lighting fires so....Keep in mind Jack and Victor have been going at it for a long time to say that he can't take the heat from him is ridiculous in my opinion. Jack deserves some credit as well. As far as him being no match for Victor, that is debatable. Same goes for him being a disgrace to his family because if I were Victor I wouldn't be pointing any fingers, his own son turned him in once as much as people forget that every now and then. Also, any family man would give their own blood a chance to explain themselves. Ok.... Gloria didn't intend for anyone to get hurt which is granted, BUT SHE DIDN'T MIND MANIPULATING A WOMAN'S DEATH TO HELP GET JACK OUT OF JABOT NOW DID SHE? Also, Jack is after Victor in this instance, so as far as him trying to bring down Victor and his family, you only mean Sabrina then yes but Jack doesn't care about her. The mustache is in his sights as well as the future of the magazine because it's the only thing he has now and it all stemmed from Gloria's self entitlement when she's just some gold digger who didn't even have the motherly instinct or will to protect her children from abuse. "I beg to differ with you, Jack is a disgrace to his family and all mankind. As for Nick turning on Victor, Nick can be just a selfish and arrogant as Jack. Now look where it got him. After he turned Victor in, in went to work for this horrible man, and has always enjoyed all the money and wonderful life that dear old dad has given him. Even though, he wanted to have nothing to do with dad, his new business is funded from a trust fund that dear old dad gave him. And the first client was 'Beauty of Nature". UMM, doesn't that belong to Victor too. Funny how much he want no ties. And how is Jack only trying to hurt Sabrina. He doesn't even know her, and she never did anything to him. It's all about Victor. What did he think that he would do after he publicly disgraced and humiliated his wife? He should have knocked that smirk off of his face. Nobody wrote any articles from Victor's camp about that trick that Jack is married too. She is bad as he is. Talking about a woman that's looking for a rich guy to take care of her. Come on that fits Sharon to a T. The difference between Victor and Jack is, If Victor had something to say about Jack's wife, he would have told him to his face. Unlike Jack, to say all these terrible things and do it under someone else's name. Not even man enough to take the weight. And then sent Adrian out in the woods in Australia, where he couldn't be reached to put his scheme in motion. Like this man will never know about this article. And then to hide out at the house like the punk that he is. I just hate that Nick is going to be caught in the crossfire.But he made his bed, so now he has to lie in it. Victor come down on Jack like a ton of bricks. Peace Out 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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135. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 21 2008, 1:18 PM EDT
" I beg to differ with you, Jack is a disgrace to his family and all mankind. As for Nick turning on Victor, Nick can be just a selfish and arrogant as Jack. Now look where it got him. After he turned Victor in, in went to work for this horrible man, and has always enjoyed all the money and wonderful life that dear old dad has given him. Even though, he wanted to have nothing to do with dad, his new business is funded from a trust fund that dear old dad gave him. And the first client was 'Beauty of Nature". UMM, doesn't that belong to Victor too. Funny how much he want no ties. And how is Jack only trying to hurt Sabrina. He doesn't even know her, and she never did anything to him. It's all about Victor. What did he think that he would do after he publicly disgraced and humiliated his wife? He should have knocked that smirk off of his face. Nobody wrote any articles from Victor's camp about that trick that Jack is married too. She is bad as he is. Talking about a woman that's looking for a rich guy to take care of her. Come on that fits Sharon to a T. The difference between Victor and Jack is, If Victor had something to say about Jack's wife, he would have told him to his face. Unlike Jack, to say all these terrible things and do it under someone else's name. Not even man enough to take the weight. And then sent Adrian out in the woods in Australia, where he couldn't be reached to put his scheme in motion. Like this man will never know about this article. And then to hide out at the house like the punk that he is. I just hate that Nick is going to be caught in the crossfire.But he made his bed, so now he has to lie in it. Victor come down on Jack like a ton of bricks. Peace Out"Fab!!!! Girl, you said a mouthful. I definitely agree with you. Jack really needs to pay for this one . . . and Sharon right along with him. It's a shame that Nick got caught up in this, but when you lie down with dogs . . . Excellent post!!! Do you find this valuable? |
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136. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 21 2008, 4:09 PM EDT
"I can understand him being upset with Nick and maybe even Phyllis since she's part of the FAB 4 but to toss Summer out she didn't do anything.I thought she and JT already had an apartment off the ranch Do you find this valuable? |
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fabulouslady |
137. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 21 2008, 5:00 PM EDT
"Fab!!!! Girl, you said a mouthful. I definitely agree with you. Jack really needs to pay for this one . . . and Sharon right along with him. It's a shame that Nick got caught up in this, but when you lie down with dogs . . . Excellent post!!!"Thanks Girl, I just call them like I see them. Do you find this valuable? |
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divadp |
138. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 21 2008, 5:48 PM EDT
"You are so right, Sharon is just a dorrmat. Jack can do anything and she is going to stand by her man, until he turns on her. Remember how he threw Gloria's clothes out in a plastic bag. Sharon if you cross him, I would make sure he doesn't have any plastic bags."LOL....that's funny fabulous but true.. Do you find this valuable? |
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divadp |
139. RE: Jack's Clever Setup..
Jul 21 2008, 5:58 PM EDT
"I can understand him being upset with Nick and maybe even Phyllis since she's part of the FAB 4 but to toss Summer out she didn't do anything.Firebarb I feel the same way he is not thinking rationally but you know when you watch tomorrow's episode everyone will have a new found love for Sabrina and for those that don't like her she will win them over....(smile)...that is one terrific girl Do you find this valuable? |