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gregwalker
what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 12:48 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 12:48 AM EDT
what makes niki and nicklous and vicky , think they can take over newman, what gives them the right. where was nick when victor was telling him about jack, where was niki when victor was telling her about david. and where was vicky when her dad was begging her to be nice to his new wife. i will tell you where they were telling victor to go to hell, thats where, now niki don't have a job are a husband, vicky realize she was totally wrong, and nick the punk newman was so far up jacks you know what, that he couldn't see his nose. and now all of a sudden they want to come kick adam out and they take over. i just don't get who writes this snuff , these days. since the writer stike has been over , these writer act like they are still off on stike somewhere. where do you come up with this snuff. one minute niki is married to a mass murderer, the next she's coming up with a plan to take over her ex-husband company. this is the dumbest storyline this year, the dumbest. what gives them the right, nick the punk newman has betray , victor so many times it's not even funny, and what makes that broke down ex-pole dancer ,thinks she has the right to take over anything. she couldn't even handle david chow. iam done until this storylines change, iam done. 4  out of 9 found this valuable. Do you?    

BoyOHBoy
1. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 12:53 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 12:53 AM EDT
"what makes niki and nicklous and vicky , think they can take over newman, what gives them the right. where was nick when victor was telling him about jack, where was niki when victor was telling her about david. and where was vicky when her dad was begging her to be nice to his new wife. i will tell you where they were telling victor to go to hell, thats where, now niki don't have a job are a husband, vicky realize she was totally wrong, and nick the punk newman was so far up jacks you know what, that he couldn't see his nose. and now all of a sudden they want to come kick adam out and they take over. i just don't get who writes this snuff , these days. since the writer stike has been over , these writer act like they are still off on stike somewhere. where do you come up with this snuff. one minute niki is married to a mass murderer, the next she's coming up with a plan to take over her ex-husband company. this is the dumbest storyline this year, the dumbest. what gives them the right, nick the punk newman has betray , victor so many times it's not even funny, and what makes that broke down ex-pole dancer ,thinks she has the right to take over anything. she couldn't even handle david chow. iam done until this storylines change, iam done."
Tell ya what, The board always runs the who's and what's of a large Company like Newman and I believe with no offense to you that Victoria and Nick have earned their spot at Newman, If Victor really did what he said then this would never be an issue, He says buisness and personal don't go hand in hand. Yet it did and he has put himseld in this position by taking off as he always does. Cause the rules do not apply to Victor as far as victor is concerned. At any rate, I don't want Adam running Newman, he has no right. JMO
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WTFISGOINGON
2. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 2:34 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 2:34 AM EDT
"what makes niki and nicklous and vicky , think they can take over newman, what gives them the right. where was nick when victor was telling him about jack, where was niki when victor was telling her about david. and where was vicky when her dad was begging her to be nice to his new wife. i will tell you where they were telling victor to go to hell, thats where, now niki don't have a job are a husband, vicky realize she was totally wrong, and nick the punk newman was so far up jacks you know what, that he couldn't see his nose. and now all of a sudden they want to come kick adam out and they take over. i just don't get who writes this snuff , these days. since the writer stike has been over , these writer act like they are still off on stike somewhere. where do you come up with this snuff. one minute niki is married to a mass murderer, the next she's coming up with a plan to take over her ex-husband company. this is the dumbest storyline this year, the dumbest. what gives them the right, nick the punk newman has betray , victor so many times it's not even funny, and what makes that broke down ex-pole dancer ,thinks she has the right to take over anything. she couldn't even handle david chow. iam done until this storylines change, iam done."
I agree with you in that it is weird what they are doing with Nikki after the whole thing where she took back the Newman name. Had me doing a double take towards the tv screen. I still however think it was very inappropriate character wise for them take the route they took when they could have just reinforced Neil's position. No matter what Adam has done, dumping on him while their father is away wont be going over well. However it might leave Adam taking action of his own and lead to drama that might make a little more sense.
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myshows
myshows
3. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 7:14 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 7:14 AM EDT
"I agree with you in that it is weird what they are doing with Nikki after the whole thing where she took back the Newman name. Had me doing a double take towards the tv screen. I still however think it was very inappropriate character wise for them take the route they took when they could have just reinforced Neil's position. No matter what Adam has done, dumping on him while their father is away wont be going over well. However it might leave Adam taking action of his own and lead to drama that might make a little more sense."
If Adam really wanted to stick it to Nick, Victoria and Nikki ,, he could actually leave and then complain to father when he returns that they kicked him out .. lol i could hear Victor now " how dare you kick MY son out of MY house"
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ferretlady
ferretlady
4. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 8:18 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 8:18 AM EDT
"what makes niki and nicklous and vicky , think they can take over newman, what gives them the right. where was nick when victor was telling him about jack, where was niki when victor was telling her about david. and where was vicky when her dad was begging her to be nice to his new wife. i will tell you where they were telling victor to go to hell, thats where, now niki don't have a job are a husband, vicky realize she was totally wrong, and nick the punk newman was so far up jacks you know what, that he couldn't see his nose. and now all of a sudden they want to come kick adam out and they take over. i just don't get who writes this snuff , these days. since the writer stike has been over , these writer act like they are still off on stike somewhere. where do you come up with this snuff. one minute niki is married to a mass murderer, the next she's coming up with a plan to take over her ex-husband company. this is the dumbest storyline this year, the dumbest. what gives them the right, nick the punk newman has betray , victor so many times it's not even funny, and what makes that broke down ex-pole dancer ,thinks she has the right to take over anything. she couldn't even handle david chow. iam done until this storylines change, iam done."
I, respectfully, don't agree with this at all. I do think it is odd that Nikki be involved, but I fully understand why Nick & Victoria are doing what they are doing. From the minte Victor disappeared Adam showed his true colors in not even caring that he was gone, he couldn't wait to kick Neil out and start running the show..the business is all he cares about. At least Nick & Victoria are caring about their dad first. I think they only did it because they see what Adam is trying to do. The smart thing would have been to over rule him and have Neil run the business and I think that is what Victor would want as well. Adam is too green yet and has already shown in the past that he makes bad decisions. It's sad because I was finally starting to let my guard down about Adam and then when Victor disappears he turns into a real a** toward everybody. I do agree that Nikki really has no business in it but I think she is only doing it to help her kids.
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fabulouslady
fabulouslady
5. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 9:23 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 9:23 AM EDT
"what makes niki and nicklous and vicky , think they can take over newman, what gives them the right. where was nick when victor was telling him about jack, where was niki when victor was telling her about david. and where was vicky when her dad was begging her to be nice to his new wife. i will tell you where they were telling victor to go to hell, thats where, now niki don't have a job are a husband, vicky realize she was totally wrong, and nick the punk newman was so far up jacks you know what, that he couldn't see his nose. and now all of a sudden they want to come kick adam out and they take over. i just don't get who writes this snuff , these days. since the writer stike has been over , these writer act like they are still off on stike somewhere. where do you come up with this snuff. one minute niki is married to a mass murderer, the next she's coming up with a plan to take over her ex-husband company. this is the dumbest storyline this year, the dumbest. what gives them the right, nick the punk newman has betray , victor so many times it's not even funny, and what makes that broke down ex-pole dancer ,thinks she has the right to take over anything. she couldn't even handle david chow. iam done until this storylines change, iam done."
I agree about Nikki. But even when she was married to david, she still was Nikki Newman. That's her only idenity. But as angry as I was with Vikki and nick, I'm glad that they are back. Victor loves them as much as he ever did, he is angry at them, right now. I think these things will change. Afterall, they have been trained by their father to run Newman for yrs. They know the business. Adam thinks he knows more than anyone, even Neil. How arrogant he is. He has already messed up and had them sued by Jabot. Mr. Know it all. He needs to be brought down a couple of notches. Adam is more concerned about being the top dog, than he is about Victor. I don't think that he cares whether he comes back or not. He wants to be head of NE, have the house and everything that this man owns. Wrong I think with their father gone, all of his children should work together to keep the business going, but there is so much hatred between them that isn't going to happen. But who is Adam, he wants to reign supreme over the rest of them. He's only been in GC for 6 months. Vikki and Nick have been with their dad their whole life. Adam needs to shut up and go with the flow. Neil and Vikki can hold NE down with no problem. They don't even need Adam. He makes me sick. It's hard to believe that he is Hope's son. She raised him, and she was such a sweet, kind, loving woman. She would be turning over in her grave, if she could see how Adam is acting.
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sjenn2001
6. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 11:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 11:58 AM EDT
"I, respectfully, don't agree with this at all. I do think it is odd that Nikki be involved, but I fully understand why Nick & Victoria are doing what they are doing. From the minte Victor disappeared Adam showed his true colors in not even caring that he was gone, he couldn't wait to kick Neil out and start running the show..the business is all he cares about. At least Nick & Victoria are caring about their dad first. I think they only did it because they see what Adam is trying to do. The smart thing would have been to over rule him and have Neil run the business and I think that is what Victor would want as well. Adam is too green yet and has already shown in the past that he makes bad decisions. It's sad because I was finally starting to let my guard down about Adam and then when Victor disappears he turns into a real a** toward everybody. I do agree that Nikki really has no business in it but I think she is only doing it to help her kids."
ferretlady, you explained the situation very well. Regardless of the family arguments, etc. Nick and Victoria are still Victor's children and they love him . . . and he loves them. You are so right about Adam, he couldn't even respect Victor's wishes about not having Heather in his house. I thought that once Adam and Heather became a couple that Adam was becoming a better person, but I was wrong. He's an opportunist who only thinks about himself. He could care less about Victor and whether he's alive or dead. Adam is not ready to run Newman and I'm glad that Neil will be in charge. Neil is always in charge in Victor's absence, so that shouldn't change. As for Nikki, she needs to stay out of it. She's doing what she always does . . . trying to get Victor back. Ferretlady, really good post.
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sjenn2001
7. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 12:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 12:00 PM EDT
" I agree about Nikki. But even when she was married to david, she still was Nikki Newman. That's her only idenity. But as angry as I was with Vikki and nick, I'm glad that they are back. Victor loves them as much as he ever did, he is angry at them, right now. I think these things will change. Afterall, they have been trained by their father to run Newman for yrs. They know the business. Adam thinks he knows more than anyone, even Neil. How arrogant he is. He has already messed up and had them sued by Jabot. Mr. Know it all. He needs to be brought down a couple of notches. Adam is more concerned about being the top dog, than he is about Victor. I don't think that he cares whether he comes back or not. He wants to be head of NE, have the house and everything that this man owns. Wrong I think with their father gone, all of his children should work together to keep the business going, but there is so much hatred between them that isn't going to happen. But who is Adam, he wants to reign supreme over the rest of them. He's only been in GC for 6 months. Vikki and Nick have been with their dad their whole life. Adam needs to shut up and go with the flow. Neil and Vikki can hold NE down with no problem. They don't even need Adam. He makes me sick. It's hard to believe that he is Hope's son. She raised him, and she was such a sweet, kind, loving woman. She would be turning over in her grave, if she could see how Adam is acting."
Fab, as usual, you nailed it!!! Excellent post.
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fabulouslady
fabulouslady
8. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 2:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 2:06 PM EDT
"Fab, as usual, you nailed it!!! Excellent post."
Thanks Sjenn, I had about all that I can stand of Adam. He's been in town 10 hot mins. and he knows Victor so well, that he knows all the moves that he would make. ((( Please))). I was glad when Nick got him straight. And then to try and step right over Neil. Neil went right to the board. Good Move Neil.
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alliecol
alliecol
9. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 3:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 3:11 PM EDT
"Tell ya what, The board always runs the who's and what's of a large Company like Newman and I believe with no offense to you that Victoria and Nick have earned their spot at Newman, If Victor really did what he said then this would never be an issue, He says buisness and personal don't go hand in hand. Yet it did and he has put himseld in this position by taking off as he always does. Cause the rules do not apply to Victor as far as victor is concerned. At any rate, I don't want Adam running Newman, he has no right. JMO"
I agree boyohboy.
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alliecol
alliecol
10. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 3:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 3:13 PM EDT
"I agree about Nikki. But even when she was married to david, she still was Nikki Newman. That's her only idenity. But as angry as I was with Vikki and nick, I'm glad that they are back. Victor loves them as much as he ever did, he is angry at them, right now. I think these things will change. Afterall, they have been trained by their father to run Newman for yrs. They know the business. Adam thinks he knows more than anyone, even Neil. How arrogant he is. He has already messed up and had them sued by Jabot. Mr. Know it all. He needs to be brought down a couple of notches. Adam is more concerned about being the top dog, than he is about Victor. I don't think that he cares whether he comes back or not. He wants to be head of NE, have the house and everything that this man owns. Wrong I think with their father gone, all of his children should work together to keep the business going, but there is so much hatred between them that isn't going to happen. But who is Adam, he wants to reign supreme over the rest of them. He's only been in GC for 6 months. Vikki and Nick have been with their dad their whole life. Adam needs to shut up and go with the flow. Neil and Vikki can hold NE down with no problem. They don't even need Adam. He makes me sick. It's hard to believe that he is Hope's son. She raised him, and she was such a sweet, kind, loving woman. She would be turning over in her grave, if she could see how Adam is acting."
Truer words have never been said, fabulouslady, I agree!
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nogreatmischief
nogreatmischief
11. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 4:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 4:54 PM EDT
"what makes niki and nicklous and vicky , think they can take over newman, what gives them the right. where was nick when victor was telling him about jack, where was niki when victor was telling her about david. and where was vicky when her dad was begging her to be nice to his new wife. i will tell you where they were telling victor to go to hell, thats where, now niki don't have a job are a husband, vicky realize she was totally wrong, and nick the punk newman was so far up jacks you know what, that he couldn't see his nose. and now all of a sudden they want to come kick adam out and they take over. i just don't get who writes this snuff , these days. since the writer stike has been over , these writer act like they are still off on stike somewhere. where do you come up with this snuff. one minute niki is married to a mass murderer, the next she's coming up with a plan to take over her ex-husband company. this is the dumbest storyline this year, the dumbest. what gives them the right, nick the punk newman has betray , victor so many times it's not even funny, and what makes that broke down ex-pole dancer ,thinks she has the right to take over anything. she couldn't even handle david chow. iam done until this storylines change, iam done."
hey gregwalker...great post...i see we're in the minority though...lol! nick, vicki, and nikki symbolically wiped their hands clean of newman enterprises as well as turning their back on their dad when he announced his love for sabrina. they may be perfectly capable of running the company (with neil's help and others') but they are nothing short of hippocrites as far as i'm concerned. i'm sure victor must have left some legal indication of who was to run the company in his absence...i guess verbally, he said neil. doesn't michael, his lawyer, know the whereabouts of his legal papers to settle this (power of attorney)...that's weird!? i am wanting victor to eventually forgive nick and victoria for the way they treated sabrina, and become close again, but that is personal. he doesn't have to forgive them for leaving the company (that's business)..that was their decision, even if it was influenced by victor's behaviour. victor does not need them running the company...neil is his right hand man. i agree adam isn't ready to run the company. i don't know where the writers are going with his s/l. at least he eventually warmed up to sabrina and treated her with kindness and respect.
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bjandk
bjandk
12. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 5:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 5:28 PM EDT
Neil was never interfering about Victor's personal life but he did treat Sabrina with respect, he knew Victor cared about her. A business as big as NE had to have things set up in a legal way as far as who was second in command in his absence & we all know it was Neil. Adam's fav. thing to say was there should be a Newman at the helm while Victor is gone, that may have been part of the reason for the Board meeting & vote was to put a sock in his mouth. Nikki knows that NE is her children's & grandchildrens legacy so I'm sure she is trying to protect it for that reason, I would. other than that she should butt out. Adam has been nothing but arrogant & selfish since Victor left thinking like Victor's gone now & he's going to get it all. He's nuts but I think he got more in store for us yet.!!!!! 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
nogreatmischief
nogreatmischief
13. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 5:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 5:36 PM EDT
"Tell ya what, The board always runs the who's and what's of a large Company like Newman and I believe with no offense to you that Victoria and Nick have earned their spot at Newman, If Victor really did what he said then this would never be an issue, He says buisness and personal don't go hand in hand. Yet it did and he has put himseld in this position by taking off as he always does. Cause the rules do not apply to Victor as far as victor is concerned. At any rate, I don't want Adam running Newman, he has no right. JMO"
yes you're right, "nick and vicki earned their spot at newman" (past tense) and i can understand why they are now coming together to make sure adam doesn't take over. i think they are doing it for themselves and their own inheritance though, not to help their father. they didn't exactly welcome adam into their lives when they first heard about him coming to genoa city and they were not warm to him...no wonder he went on the defensive. it's great that they're so concerned about victor...that's where they should focus. i don't see how they will be able to actually run the company anyways, since nick has a magazine to run and victoria has an infant to be around for...i guess she's a supermom/superwoman, having come unscathed from a long time in a coma! that situation just doesn't make sense to me (the concern about running the company)...that is something that should have been put in place long ago, not decided at an emergency meeting. so true, rules do not apply to victor. JMO (folks).
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Jasman123
Jasman123
14. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 6:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 6:34 PM EDT
"what makes niki and nicklous and vicky , think they can take over newman, what gives them the right. where was nick when victor was telling him about jack, where was niki when victor was telling her about david. and where was vicky when her dad was begging her to be nice to his new wife. i will tell you where they were telling victor to go to hell, thats where, now niki don't have a job are a husband, vicky realize she was totally wrong, and nick the punk newman was so far up jacks you know what, that he couldn't see his nose. and now all of a sudden they want to come kick adam out and they take over. i just don't get who writes this snuff , these days. since the writer stike has been over , these writer act like they are still off on stike somewhere. where do you come up with this snuff. one minute niki is married to a mass murderer, the next she's coming up with a plan to take over her ex-husband company. this is the dumbest storyline this year, the dumbest. what gives them the right, nick the punk newman has betray , victor so many times it's not even funny, and what makes that broke down ex-pole dancer ,thinks she has the right to take over anything. she couldn't even handle david chow. iam done until this storylines change, iam done."
gregwalker, you have a very good point.
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patty1953
patty1953
15. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 7:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 7:54 PM EDT
Boy, you sure sound angry, Greg! And I hear you, but here's my 2 cents: Nikki and Victor, for all their fighting, anger, mean words, bickering, cheating and divorcing; are emotionally married to each other and care deeply for one another. Victor was still committed to protecting Nikki when she was still married to David Chow, and now that she feels Victor is in deep pain and probable danger, nothing and no one will be able to stop her from rushing to his side. Love them or hate them together, their's is the oldest love story on the Y&R and it will go on until the two of them are dead and buried. Nicholas made a terrible choice when he self-righteously turned in his own father to the authorities and Victor was deeply wounded by that unbelievable betrayal. Victoria has made decisions that she bitterly regrets and has apologised for them. But Nikki, Nicholas and Victoria have never acted out of pure greed, naked ambition and a blatant disregard for Victor's basic welfare. Adam was willing to risk Victor's life in order to grab his 15 minutes of fame in front of the cameras, until Neil clipped his wings. I'm not saying that Nikki, Nick & Vikki have behaved like angels. There has been disloyalty, lack of kindness, gratitude & compassion. But, at the end of the day, they came together for Victor, Sabrina and their unborn sister. Adam, on the other hand, seems concerned only about the money, the power, prestige & position and making sure that the others are frozen out. Where is his concern for his "good friend," Skye? Why is he so arrogant and overbearing with Victor's household staff and Neil? Why isn't he checking with the FBI, Paul & J.T. about Victor's whereabouts & well-being? 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

firebarb
16. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 8:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 8:15 PM EDT
"Boy, you sure sound angry, Greg! And I hear you, but here's my 2 cents: Nikki and Victor, for all their fighting, anger, mean words, bickering, cheating and divorcing; are emotionally married to each other and care deeply for one another. Victor was still committed to protecting Nikki when she was still married to David Chow, and now that she feels Victor is in deep pain and probable danger, nothing and no one will be able to stop her from rushing to his side. Love them or hate them together, their's is the oldest love story on the Y&R and it will go on until the two of them are dead and buried. Nicholas made a terrible choice when he self-righteously turned in his own father to the authorities and Victor was deeply wounded by that unbelievable betrayal. Victoria has made decisions that she bitterly regrets and has apologised for them. But Nikki, Nicholas and Victoria have never acted out of pure greed, naked ambition and a blatant disregard for Victor's basic welfare. Adam was willing to risk Victor's life in order to grab his 15 minutes of fame in front of the cameras, until Neil clipped his wings. I'm not saying that Nikki, Nick & Vikki have behaved like angels. There has been disloyalty, lack of kindness, gratitude & compassion. But, at the end of the day, they came together for Victor, Sabrina and their unborn sister. Adam, on the other hand, seems concerned only about the money, the power, prestige & position and making sure that the others are frozen out. Where is his concern for his "good friend," Skye? Why is he so arrogant and overbearing with Victor's household staff and Neil? Why isn't he checking with the FBI, Paul & J.T. about Victor's whereabouts & well-being?"
Well legally Nikki is still Nikki Newman because David Chow married her under false pretenses as in she had no idea he was somebody else. So that marriage should be null and void. So she has a right to use Nikki Newman but not sure about Mrs. Victor Newman. Even though she wishes at this moment I am sure.
I think Adam is an opportunist myself. He wasn't coming to GC and then he did right away. He took a job with Victor right away. He came here with a plan and an agenda. What that is I don't know. It may be good but so far Adam has only proven to me that he reverts to down right evil with the bat of your eye.
Victoria and Nick said they invited Nikki to sit in on this board meeting so I am assuming that's why she got involved. However Neil must have gone to her first because they were the ones telling them about their plan to put Victoria in charge. I think Victoria was the obvious choice since she does know the business in and out and Adam acting like a greedy rouge son, could spell disaster for the company. Neil, not being a Newman, would have less control over him with Victor gone. When Victor's here he fears Neil will go to Victor. Victoria doesn't care and won't baby him like Victor does, and she will keep him put in his place. Nick was fired by Victor, Victoria left on her own and Victor didn't want her to leave but she couldn't deal with what Victor was doing, favoring Adam over her. In fairness to Victor, he had no idea that Adam is a monster, and Victoria was spending a lot of time with Reed and trying to recover from her coman ordeal, so he might have thought putting Adam in over her was a swell idea at the time. But it wasn't so with this storyline they correct an obvious Victor over mistake.
Adam is for Adam. He wants to be in control and be powerful and rich like Victor. We've seen that when he first went to the ranch and plopped around the living room. Adam wants to be King Adam.
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firebarb
17. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 8:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 8:24 PM EDT
"Boy, you sure sound angry, Greg! And I hear you, but here's my 2 cents: Nikki and Victor, for all their fighting, anger, mean words, bickering, cheating and divorcing; are emotionally married to each other and care deeply for one another. Victor was still committed to protecting Nikki when she was still married to David Chow, and now that she feels Victor is in deep pain and probable danger, nothing and no one will be able to stop her from rushing to his side. Love them or hate them together, their's is the oldest love story on the Y&R and it will go on until the two of them are dead and buried. Nicholas made a terrible choice when he self-righteously turned in his own father to the authorities and Victor was deeply wounded by that unbelievable betrayal. Victoria has made decisions that she bitterly regrets and has apologised for them. But Nikki, Nicholas and Victoria have never acted out of pure greed, naked ambition and a blatant disregard for Victor's basic welfare. Adam was willing to risk Victor's life in order to grab his 15 minutes of fame in front of the cameras, until Neil clipped his wings. I'm not saying that Nikki, Nick & Vikki have behaved like angels. There has been disloyalty, lack of kindness, gratitude & compassion. But, at the end of the day, they came together for Victor, Sabrina and their unborn sister. Adam, on the other hand, seems concerned only about the money, the power, prestige & position and making sure that the others are frozen out. Where is his concern for his "good friend," Skye? Why is he so arrogant and overbearing with Victor's household staff and Neil? Why isn't he checking with the FBI, Paul & J.T. about Victor's whereabouts & well-being?"
patty that is what kills me with Adam. They may make him a decent person at some point with some silly explanation as to why he's doing all you mentioned but that bit with the first day Victor is gone he invites Heather over for dinner and orders up like he's King of the Mountain. Then the conversation with Heather was all bunk too. If he really cared about Skye he'd be less interested in Newman and more interested in what happen to his college girlfriend and to his own Father. Victor always says family is so important but with Adam being powerful, and greedy and obnoxious is first. He does talk down to poor Estelle and to Neil he's been rude. And he's been that way with Nick, Victoria and Nikki.
I agree that Nick, Victoria's and Nikki's actions have always been emotional reactions not greedy ones. Adam flaunts his place in the will like a badge he wears on his chest. I am not sure why Michael told him the will wasn't as much about him as he'd like to believe because it sounded like he was in there when Nick and Victoria are not. But he may have done something else with the business or something who knows. But Victor made a big mistake letting Adam know he was #1. He will use it and he may still use it if they don't find Victor. He may take action like he told Heather he might have to in all his grief over Skye and his Father missing and try and take over everything. I almost hope he shows that side of him as proof positive what a little jerk he is and Victor comes back about that time and nails him. Nick and Victoria already know the real Adam it would be good for Victor to be introduced. Great post patty.
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alliecol
alliecol
18. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 8:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 8:28 PM EDT
"Boy, you sure sound angry, Greg! And I hear you, but here's my 2 cents: Nikki and Victor, for all their fighting, anger, mean words, bickering, cheating and divorcing; are emotionally married to each other and care deeply for one another. Victor was still committed to protecting Nikki when she was still married to David Chow, and now that she feels Victor is in deep pain and probable danger, nothing and no one will be able to stop her from rushing to his side. Love them or hate them together, their's is the oldest love story on the Y&R and it will go on until the two of them are dead and buried. Nicholas made a terrible choice when he self-righteously turned in his own father to the authorities and Victor was deeply wounded by that unbelievable betrayal. Victoria has made decisions that she bitterly regrets and has apologised for them. But Nikki, Nicholas and Victoria have never acted out of pure greed, naked ambition and a blatant disregard for Victor's basic welfare. Adam was willing to risk Victor's life in order to grab his 15 minutes of fame in front of the cameras, until Neil clipped his wings. I'm not saying that Nikki, Nick & Vikki have behaved like angels. There has been disloyalty, lack of kindness, gratitude & compassion. But, at the end of the day, they came together for Victor, Sabrina and their unborn sister. Adam, on the other hand, seems concerned only about the money, the power, prestige & position and making sure that the others are frozen out. Where is his concern for his "good friend," Skye? Why is he so arrogant and overbearing with Victor's household staff and Neil? Why isn't he checking with the FBI, Paul & J.T. about Victor's whereabouts & well-being?"
Great post patty! You are so right, we have never seen Nicholas and Victoria act out of pure greed when it comes to the Newman money, they were so busy trying to get Victor's attention and finding their own identities. Adam on the other hand...maybe i just don't understand him but he sure is acting cold, one minute he acts all concerned about what has happpened and about Skye and the next he wants to make sure that Newman is fine and keeps throwing the fact that he is in the will and not Nick and Victoria.
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nogreatmischief
nogreatmischief
19. RE: what makes niki and her sorry son,
Aug 16 2008, 9:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 9:42 PM EDT
regarding nicholas and victoria...too little, too late...i'm referring to people vs things...sabrina and victor together were far more important than newman enterprises. if only they had spent as much energy on understanding and supporting their relationship as they are spending on saving newman enterprises. i believe their motives are partly greed, for their inheritance...victor would be just fine if the business went down because of adam...he has infinite resources. and poor nick and victoria, they would have to work to support their families and their retirement funds just like the rest of us. (i'm not saying i agree with adam's attitude...it's despicable, just keeping in sync with the thread). just me 2 cents folks. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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